D-6

MetalCraftSolved said:
Thanks.
These day's for tube work I have a chop saw, a Tannewitz model TR-4014W bandsaw, a JMR tube notcher. A modified bench grinder on a mobile stand, that has a 2" inch x 36" inch belt grinder attachment on left side, and switch out 7 inch & 4.5 inch flap discs on the right side. That stand also has another bench grinder mounted 180 degrees opposite side, which has a 6 inch wire wheel on the left side, and a polishing style 1 inch x 6 inch flap wheel on the right side.

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Finally got Doc's navigation system mounted so he doesn't get lost. LOL

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Keith1138 said:
Is it me or is it mounted directly in front of him?
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It was just an inside joke.

OK..... First things first..... CAN'T GET LOST..... Luckily Doc is great with computer screens, and we are going to give him a BIG ASS NAVIGATION SCREEN to keep him on track. First thing I want to mount in the drivers cock pit is the navigation screen. Nothing else on the dash board is more important than this piece of equipment. Most all of Doc's connections with the car become muscle memory, but not the connection with the navigation screen. It's an ever learning visual connection he will have to become one with. Looking at the eye sight lines, I located his navigation screen within the vision blind spot that we encountered with the supercharger. Basically I used the supercharger blind spot to raise the navigation screen as high as possible. Honestly, I don't think I would have raised the GPS this high if it was causing loss of vision around the car.

Looking at what I'm seeing now, I'm getting first thoughts towards putting the transmission shifter somewhere on the lower - driver side of the steering wheel, because I'm going to need a substantial amount of space on the passenger side of the seat to mount the transfer case shifter's in a position where they aren't knocking the elbow.

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It might be easier to use a rotary knob shifter like a dodge truxk6. That's package nicely
 
On my 21'st birthday, Randy Slawson and I hit 111 miles per hour in a rock crawler on a Tuesday morning around 2:30 am. He was 32 years old at the time.
Ron said:
It might be easier to use a rotary knob shifter like a dodge truxk6. That's package nicely
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You mean like those newer Dodge trucks with the selector turn knob on the dash beside the radio?
 
MetalCraftSolved said:
On my 21'st birthday, Randy Slawson and I hit 111 miles per hour in a rock crawler on a Tuesday morning around 2:30 am. He was 32 years old at the time.



You mean like those newer Dodge trucks with the selector turn knob on the dash beside the radio?
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Yep it'd tuck nice and tight
 
Jason W. said:
Where's the cup holder, what pressure you air the tires down too.
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On my 21'st birthday, Randy Slawson and I hit 111 miles per hour in a stock LS1 powered straight axle rock crawler with 37 inch tires on a Tuesday morning around 2:30 am in the pitch black dark with two tiny LED lights. (would not advise) I was in school down in So-Cal and he was 32 years old at the time. Couple months later Bomber Fabrication was started, and we moved into a little shop in Grand Terrace, CA. I'm 32 years old now, and looking back at some stuff, it's probably not a good idea to roll with the cup holder. That first Bomber only had about 350 horsepower. Those tires were probably 14 psi (also would not advise at 100 MPH +)
 
MetalCraftSolved said:
Alright, so, the Art-Carr / Winters shifter is mechanical. The one your introducing it electrical. Must be some sort of actuator it engages.
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Ok...so draw a couple wires
 
Ron said:
It might be easier to use a rotary knob shifter like a dodge truxk6. That's package nicely
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Well I like your Idea, and I'll tell you why I like it, and why I don't like it.

I absolutely do not like the turn shift knob idea. In a racing scenario this will be a nightmare. There's just not enough space in between the angles where the knob needs to be turned to be in the particular gear or neutral or "park" or wherever it needs to be. Definitely see an adrenaline rush turning the knob way past where it needed to be shifted.

On the other hand.....

If I could press a button.....

We'll say I can just press a button and be in drive or first, second or third gear. Neutral, reverse , or park.

This would be amazing.

Although I don't like the concept of relying on the electrical shifter, the Bomber way is to knock out two birds with one stone and this may be one of those things.

It would be cool to not have to deal the shifter gate!

I'm going to put some thought into this over the course of the week and maybe decide who I need to talk to about it.

Any more details about it would be nice. I think it would be cool to hit a button and automatically be in 1st gear, or reverse.

Pretty neat! @Ron
 
Ron said:
That settles it.
Its a dream build.
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Or....a resume builder/linkledin advertising "look at me" venture.

Either way, by shear "views" dis ***** here has succeeded.

"Any press is good press"
 
I just want to see pictures of that set up. I'm a visual guy. Show me don't tell me.
 
I can get on board with the push button shifting. I should probably get rid of the button housing, and strategically place the shift buttons. Put the 3 drive buttons near the right hand, the reverse button alone near the left hand, and Neutral & Park off to the driver side off the steering wheel somewhere.

I noticed in this video that there is a digital readout that is separate from the button housings they make. The paddle shifters may be a nice touch if Doc can turn the wheel without hitting them on accident. Probably go ahead and plan on having 2 different steering wheels. One with paddles, and one without.



 
Levers work (even if electronic). Did someone really think "As if a tactile knob wasn't hard enough, lets make a button on a flat surface to push while you're bouncing around!" I'm sure its a good idea for track applications, not so sure about offroad. The form factor of that controller doesn't look like it would lend itself well to any type of hand-stable placement on a steering wheel or similar.
 
jeepinmatt said:
Levers work (even if electronic). Did someone really think "As if a tactile knob wasn't hard enough, lets make a button on a flat surface to push while you're bouncing around!" I'm sure its a good idea for track applications, not so sure about offroad. The form factor of that controller doesn't look like it would lend itself well to any type of hand-stable placement on a steering wheel or similar.
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In contrast...its desert racing. 99% of the time the operation is engage drive and then forget about it for 4 hours.
The only exception would be if hung up in a rock section of KOH and needing to back up, probably consumes 1% of total operation time.
Why do we dedicate 30% of available tactile space to 1% operation...

(Just food for thought)
 
Ron said:
In contrast...its desert racing. 99% of the time the operation is engage drive and then forget about it for 4 hours.
The only exception would be if hung up in a rock section of KOH and needing to back up, probably consumes 1% of total operation time.
Why do we dedicate 30% of available tactile space to 1% operation...

(Just food for thought)
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Because when you need it, it needs to work, often in an instant, intuitively, without hesitation, to prevent rolling over backwards ;)
 
In this scenario I think you would have one button for first gear. A second button for automatically shifting through first and second gear. Third button to shift through 5 gears automatically. I think if I strategically placed the reverse button it will be quicker than reaching for the shifter. That reverse button probably going to end up super close to the left hand. As soon as you touch it, the actuator inside that sealed box is slamming into reverse.
 
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