Be on the lookout please

guffey24

guffey24

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Hendersonville, NC
Stolen from Siler City on our deer hunting land, chains cut, trespassing on the farmers land and taken from his barn

1991 Honda 4trx 4wd, custom camo paint

2006 Kawasaki Bayou, 2wd green in color

I hate fucking thieves, please keep your eyes peeled, don’t call the law, let me know, we are going to handle it ourselves
 
guffey24 said:
Stolen from Siler City on our deer hunting land, chains cut, trespassing on the farmers land and taken from his barn

1991 Honda 4trx 4wd, custom camo paint

2006 Kawasaki Bayou, 2wd green in color

I hate fucking thieves, please keep your eyes peeled, don’t call the law, let me know, we are going to handle it ourselves
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I have family in that area, will keep an eye out...
 
guffey24 said:
Stolen from Siler City on our deer hunting land, chains cut, trespassing on the farmers land and taken from his barn

1991 Honda 4trx 4wd, custom camo paint

2006 Kawasaki Bayou, 2wd green in color

I hate fucking thieves, please keep your eyes peeled, don’t call the law, let me know, we are going to handle it ourselves
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I'll help. I would rather a man fight me then steal from me.
 
Pics on here and fb go a long way these days... I’ve seen multiple wheelers and sxs returned to owners bc someone see it behind a shed or in a trailer after seeing pics on fb
 
untchabl said:
I'll keep an eye out for them, that's right in my backyard. Any pictures of them, VIN numbers or any distinguishing things to look for?
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The Honda has a tan base coat and real leaf pattern sprayed over it in brown, green and black, paint is fading some and the original blue color is coming through

The green bayou had a dead battery and a broken pull cord, not even sure how they moved it
 
Atla said:
I highly recommend against that.
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SDIVER2006 said:
Especially in an open fourm
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Cops have been notified, vin numbers have been given to them, they won’t do a fucking thing about 2 four wheelers stolen, he even said you will probably never see them again

But if I do see them or one of them again, somebody will be fishing there teeth out of there throat no questions asked, and that’s a guarantee
 
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Paul said:
@guffey24 is a BDB member. We know to handle things. Ask around about us, they are not rumors.
Just sayin...
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That's cool - I guess.

Personally, whenever I read people acting hard and threatening empty air online, my eyes roll. You could be super-duper-hardcore, but when you've seen as many blustering fools over the past two decades online threatening violent retribution against anyone whose slighted them... you tend to take it with a grain of salt. Besides, for all you know Sylvester Stallone, Jean Claude Van Damme, and those rapey guys from Deliverance stole your rigs. So, threatening an unknown number of people of an unknown 'badassness' quality... meh.

Legally speaking, the notion of 'handling it yourself' in a violent manner is utterly foolish. If you think your stolen goodies are worth spending time in jail, thousands of dollars in restitution and lawyers fees, plus the stress on missing work and on your family and kids - sure, whatever. Go beat someones teeth in. Good luck with the aftermath.

But a rational man would report the theft to the cops, keep a sharp eye out, check classifieds and whatnot, and if you discover anything contact the police and let them handle it with no legal blow back on yourself.

For what it's worth, I once handled an issue like you are suggesting. Luckily, nothing legally came of it. But I was a hot headed 19 year old who thought he was hard.

A bunch of grown ass men ought to know better.
 
Atla said:
That's cool - I guess.

Personally, whenever I read people acting hard and threatening empty air online, my eyes roll. You could be super-duper-hardcore, but when you've seen as many blustering fools over the past two decades online threatening violent retribution against anyone whose slighted them... you tend to take it with a grain of salt. Besides, for all you know Sylvester Stallone, Jean Claude Van Damme, and those rapey guys from Deliverance stole your rigs. So, threatening an unknown number of people of an unknown 'badassness' quality... meh.

Legally speaking, the notion of 'handling it yourself' in a violent manner is utterly foolish. If you think your stolen goodies are worth spending time in jail, thousands of dollars in restitution and lawyers fees, plus the stress on missing work and on your family and kids - sure, whatever. Go beat someones teeth in. Good luck with the aftermath.

But a rational man would report the theft to the cops, keep a sharp eye out, check classifieds and whatnot, and if you discover anything contact the police and let them handle it with no legal blow back on yourself.

For what it's worth, I once handled an issue like you are suggesting. Luckily, nothing legally came of it. But I was a hot headed 19 year old who thought he was hard.

A bunch of grown ass men ought to know better.
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You also assume violence is the only repercussion. Rationalizing the the irrational (being criminals is why we have so many repeat offenders and worse). Our system doesn't work. Our system of incarceration or penalization through fines doesn't work. Being "hard" isn't all it can be about. Pure vigilante justice in the form of revenge doesn't work either....chalking folks up to hot heads and bruisers isn't always the definition of taking care of things.

To the OP. I'm still on board to help some folks learn up, if you find them.
 
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Atla said:
That's cool - I guess.

Personally, whenever I read people acting hard and threatening empty air online, my eyes roll. You could be super-duper-hardcore, but when you've seen as many blustering fools over the past two decades online threatening violent retribution against anyone whose slighted them... you tend to take it with a grain of salt. Besides, for all you know Sylvester Stallone, Jean Claude Van Damme, and those rapey guys from Deliverance stole your rigs. So, threatening an unknown number of people of an unknown 'badassness' quality... meh.

Legally speaking, the notion of 'handling it yourself' in a violent manner is utterly foolish. If you think your stolen goodies are worth spending time in jail, thousands of dollars in restitution and lawyers fees, plus the stress on missing work and on your family and kids - sure, whatever. Go beat someones teeth in. Good luck with the aftermath.

But a rational man would report the theft to the cops, keep a sharp eye out, check classifieds and whatnot, and if you discover anything contact the police and let them handle it with no legal blow back on yourself.

For what it's worth, I once handled an issue like you are suggesting. Luckily, nothing legally came of it. But I was a hot headed 19 year old who thought he was hard.

A bunch of grown ass men ought to know better.
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thanks for the advice, I will take care of things the way I want to take care of them since I’m a grown ass man, you take care of them the way you would like, it doesn’t concern me at all

System is flawed, and the guys that probably took them, probably don’t have teeth anyway
 
You guys realize that it's pretty much impossible to solve a case with no evidence of any sort, right?

But sure... the system is flawed because it can't immediately solve crimes to your satisfaction and the punishment doesn't fit your violent daydreams of retribution.

Anywho. Good luck with all your planned revenge and whatnot.
 
Atla said:
You guys realize that it's pretty much impossible to solve a case with no evidence of any sort, right?

But sure... the system is flawed because it can't immediately solve crimes to your satisfaction and the punishment doesn't fit your violent daydreams of retribution.

Anywho. Good luck with all your planned revenge and whatnot.
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I assume you have not lived in a neighborhood with a repeat offender who stole from everyone. One who consistently kicked in doors, broke windows, or unscrewed siding to achieve entrance. One who after numerous arrest got small jail time. One who once got out returned to the same pattern. One who finally got actual prison time only to serve half the sentence, then repeat the cycle......Or worse have a dear loved one (mother) have her house ransacked doing far worse mental damage then the atrocious physical property damage. Lets not mention the thousands of dollars of mementos and cherished gifts stolen in one instance. I could go on, like the neighbor who tediously preserved a 1800 house and a treasure trove of antiques, now feeding a meth heads habit....
Its a principle. Murderers and thieves share the same bed in my eyes.

You speak of revenge, I speak of being taught how wrong it is....and I'm not talking judgement. Education at a level they understand.
I suggest this...

found on a good read from a biblical perspective..

"Restitution
The basic principle in biblical law is that a person who is convicted of a crime must make restitution to the victim of their crime. For example, the penalty for theft is four or fivefold restitution to the victim.

If a man steals an ox or a sheep and slaughters it or sells it, he must pay back five head of cattle for the ox and four sheep for the sheep (Ex 22:1).

The thief must pay his victim four times the value of what he has sold. The compensation beyond the value of what was stolen makes up for the cost of tracking down the thief. It also acts as a deterrent against theft. A thief will not get caught every time, so if he only had to pay back what was stolen, he might decide to risk the crime, knowing that when if he gets caught, he can just give back the stolen goods. The fourfold repayment reduces the economic benefits of theft.

An ox gets additional restitution because it can be used to pull a heavy load. It is a capital good that can be used to produce a stream of income into the future, so is more valuable to its owner than a sheep. Stealing an ox makes the owner less productive for the lifetime of the oxen. Using a modern example, the theft of a carpenters tools (his capital goods) costs him more than the theft of something he has made. This is why additional restitution is required. Biblical law requires fivefold restitution for the any capital goods that are stolen.

This is very different from the modern system of fines and imprisonment. All fines get paid to the state, so the victim gets nothing. If the criminal is sent to prison, innocent citizens pay the cost and the victim still misses out, which is very unfair. In the biblical system the victim gets compensated for their loss."



Load up some of their stuff while they watch. With a heavy dose of a come to Jesus meeting.....turning the cheek doesn't mean roll over and keep getting kicked.
 
sawdoff said:
no. the system is flawed because there are no consequences for those who do wrong. if there were, peices of shit who steal would learn its not worth it
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-eyeroll-

You're speaking to a person who was charged with Felony Possession of Stolen Property and Felony Larceny when I was 19 and by the skin of my teeth managed to walk away with just a Misdemeanor charge on my record after a plea bargain.

Yeah, there was consequences.

There was the $5,000 in attorney fees, plus another $15,000 in restitution right out the gate. After over a year's worth of fear that I'd end up in jail for being young and stupid. And never allowed to own guns. Or vote. And if you haven't noticed by now, shooting guns and being political educated are my hobbies.

Then there was everything else you don't think about. Checking boxes on work applications and getting turned down automatically. That whole 'Have you ever stolen from an employer' part is hard to lie about when your background check says otherwise. Being rejected by the Marine Corps repeatedly because of it, which had been a dream of mine since I watched Sands of Iwo Jima. Being denied entry into college until I jumped through a bunch of loops and wrote miniature thesis papers on why they should let me in. Including contacting the Governor at one point because the entire process was ridiculous. Finally getting into the Marine Corps, with a four year degree in Criminal Justice, but being blocked from becoming an Officer because my record prevented me from getting a security clearance.

Yeah, whatever. No consequences. I did an unpaid internship in Boone with an attorney, I spent a lot of time in court. I saw a lot of morons get punished fairly. I never saw anyone get off easily.

Oh yeah, don't worry, I'm not offended by being called a piece of shit.

Because, first off, at the time - I was. And second off, I've thick skin and frankly, unknown people on the opposite ends of the internet being hurtful with text have zero effect on me.

But seeing this crap repeated over and over about how the system is flawed, and there are no consequence, blah blah. Just because occasionally, someone slips through the cracks, doesn't mean you are correct. And if you are basing your opinion off the notion that you should be able to violently beat someone who stole your property, well, you're understanding of right and wrong and consequences is skewed pretty far out there.

The system ain't perfect. I'll give you that. But it's a constant work in progress and continuously improving.

And I'd say, just guessing here, that the 2.3 MILLION incarcerated Americans would say there were consequences for their actions as well.
 
what our institutions should be doing is putting these folks to work for profit......the money goes back to support said institution WHEN AND ONLY WHEN THE VICTIM IS PAID.

Then our prison, jail system would not be the economic burden of the "just" people. Any prison not profitable and accountable gets new management, just like a business.

Watch the prison system shrink!
 
Atla said:
-eyeroll-

You're speaking to a person who was charged with Felony Possession of Stolen Property and Felony Larceny when I was 19 and by the skin of my teeth managed to walk away with just a Misdemeanor charge on my record after a plea bargain.

Yeah, there was consequences.

There was the $5,000 in attorney fees, plus another $15,000 in restitution right out the gate. After over a year's worth of fear that I'd end up in jail for being young and stupid. And never allowed to own guns. Or vote. And if you haven't noticed by now, shooting guns and being political educated are my hobbies.

Then there was everything else you don't think about. Checking boxes on work applications and getting turned down automatically. That whole 'Have you ever stolen from an employer' part is hard to lie about when your background check says otherwise. Being rejected by the Marine Corps repeatedly because of it, which had been a dream of mine since I watched Sands of Iwo Jima. Being denied entry into college until I jumped through a bunch of loops and wrote miniature thesis papers on why they should let me in. Including contacting the Governor at one point because the entire process was ridiculous. Finally getting into the Marine Corps, with a four year degree in Criminal Justice, but being blocked from becoming an Officer because my record prevented me from getting a security clearance.

Yeah, whatever. No consequences. I did an unpaid internship in Boone with an attorney, I spent a lot of time in court. I saw a lot of morons get punished fairly. I never saw anyone get off easily.

Don't worry, I'm not offended by being called a piece of shit.

Because, first off, at the time - I was. And second off, I've thick skin and frankly, unknown people on the opposite ends of the internet being hurtful with text have zero effect on me.

But seeing this crap repeated over and over about how the system is flawed, and there are no consequence, blah blah. Just because occasionally, someone slips through the cracks, doesn't mean you are correct. And if you are basing your opinion off the notion that you should be able to violently beat someone who stole your property, well, you're understanding of right and wrong and consequences is skewed pretty far out there.

The system ain't perfect. I'll give you that. But it's a constant work in progress and continuously improving.

And I'd say, just guessing here, that the 2.3 MILLION incarcerated Americans would say there were consequences for their actions as well.
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I'd bet my arse your a statistical anomaly.
 
roll youre fukin eyes all you want i stand by the statement. if there were real consequences things would change. and from your timeline im guessing your very rare rehabilitation was a while back. ive seen someone close (as well as several others) that have taken the wrong path and ive seen the slap on the wrists dealt out. and when my statement was made i had no idea youre past so its not someone hiding behind a keyboard being hurtful or what ever you try to imply. i could care less about your past and not at all concerned you had a hard time because of your own actions. thats the way it should be. i do not believe its that way now for the most part unless major crime. the systems improving? seriously ?

the more i think about your responses, i realize i just wasted my time to even reply
 
Atla said:
-eyeroll-

You're speaking to a person who was charged with Felony Possession of Stolen Property and Felony Larceny when I was 19 and by the skin of my teeth managed to walk away with just a Misdemeanor charge on my record after a plea bargain.

Yeah, there was consequences.

There was the $5,000 in attorney fees, plus another $15,000 in restitution right out the gate. After over a year's worth of fear that I'd end up in jail for being young and stupid. And never allowed to own guns. Or vote. And if you haven't noticed by now, shooting guns and being political educated are my hobbies.

Then there was everything else you don't think about. Checking boxes on work applications and getting turned down automatically. That whole 'Have you ever stolen from an employer' part is hard to lie about when your background check says otherwise. Being rejected by the Marine Corps repeatedly because of it, which had been a dream of mine since I watched Sands of Iwo Jima. Being denied entry into college until I jumped through a bunch of loops and wrote miniature thesis papers on why they should let me in. Including contacting the Governor at one point because the entire process was ridiculous. Finally getting into the Marine Corps, with a four year degree in Criminal Justice, but being blocked from becoming an Officer because my record prevented me from getting a security clearance.

Yeah, whatever. No consequences. I did an unpaid internship in Boone with an attorney, I spent a lot of time in court. I saw a lot of morons get punished fairly. I never saw anyone get off easily.

Oh yeah, don't worry, I'm not offended by being called a piece of shit.

Because, first off, at the time - I was. And second off, I've thick skin and frankly, unknown people on the opposite ends of the internet being hurtful with text have zero effect on me.

But seeing this crap repeated over and over about how the system is flawed, and there are no consequence, blah blah. Just because occasionally, someone slips through the cracks, doesn't mean you are correct. And if you are basing your opinion off the notion that you should be able to violently beat someone who stole your property, well, you're understanding of right and wrong and consequences is skewed pretty far out there.

The system ain't perfect. I'll give you that. But it's a constant work in progress and continuously improving.

And I'd say, just guessing here, that the 2.3 MILLION incarcerated Americans would say there were consequences for their actions as well.
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So by your own admission you were a piece of shit and did piece of shit things. Then because of those actions your life was made tough. And you think anyone should feel sorry?
Or am I missing your point?
 
Atla said:
-eyeroll-

You're speaking to a person who was charged with Felony Possession of Stolen Property and Felony Larceny when I was 19 and by the skin of my teeth managed to walk away with just a Misdemeanor charge on my record after a plea bargain.
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so i did some real bad shit hired a fancy lawyer and walked outa court.

Did you just prove my point?
 
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