Car parked in firelane, firemen bust out windows to run hose

sgtbriangreen said:
My daddy was a FF for 34 years. He always said that laying a hose across the hood does a ton of damage also. Hood and fenders are trash after that. That hose will vibrate and wear the paint off as well as crushing them down a little bit. The last few years he was a battalion chief and he would just push cars out of the way with his suburban.
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I wasn't thinking of how to do less damage to the vehicle - frankly, they parked in front of the hydrant so they don't get to complain. My point was that by busting out the windows to "thread the needle" through the vehicle seems more for the "shock and awe" of the photo opportunity than simply laying it over the hood and fenders or opening the doors and going straight across. I just hope that common sense prevails in these situations instead of just raw, "I feel the need to bust some stuff".

I found this picture as a result of looking for the Boston story:
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In this case, the hose was already run on the ground. Busting out the windows only proved to increase the number of turns in the hose and increase the elevation of the hose only then to drop it back down to the road again.
 
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zjguy said:
theres another picture to this where they had some guys moving the car over. I guess they realized real quick that their "awesome job" of putting the hose through the window bit them in the tail real quick!
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Here is the follow-up with the video: http://www.statter911.com/2014/04/1...rs-civilians-moving-bmw-boston-get-kink-hose/

From the looks of the picture, even pushing the car forward 12" would have put the hose over the truck and had the same amount of rise as going over the doors. Or, opening the doors and pushing it backward 12" would have taken care of the whole problem.


From this picture, it would have been no problem pushing it backwards - forwards would have been trickier, but still do-able:
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I guess I'm the type of person who tries to look at the whole situation first and take a second to put together a plan before acting. I understand that seconds count in fire situations, but to me that's all the more reason to rationally plan out a strategy than to start swinging tools having to correct stuff later. I'd think it's a lot easier to move a car (even sideways as they had to do) without a charged large diameter hose running through the middle of it.
 
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Hard to push a parked car when there are vehicles parked fore and aft of it. That particular fire? It was an 8-alarm response, so water was needed no matter what and fast.
 
Engineer can pop a couple windows by himself, to move the vehicle would take more resources.
 
transman731 said:
you have to remember that in nyc and other big cities, parking is at a premium. it's not always as easy as parking and walking to where you want to go.
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Reason number 1,435,792 why not to live in a big city.
 
What yall are not relizing is unles a car is a manual no human can move it because two of the tires are locked and you cant take it out of park without the key
 
offroad cowboy said:
What yall are not relizing is unles a car is a manual no human can move it because two of the tires are locked and you cant take it out of park without the key
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Lol

No human can move it?

Sure they can. But that isnt the argument. The argument is : Is it easier and faster to route the house around or on the car than through it.
 
Yes it can but how long is it going to take to find the switch hondas and toyota cars are easy but what about others like chevys the shifter bezal hasto be removed or the jeep patroit is under a access plate under the passenger side its not our job to know this stuff and if your illegally parked then its not our fault that we damaged your vehicle trying to save your or your neighbors house
 
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