Lawn and Landscape

Discussion in 'General Chit Chat' started by RobMcBee, Sep 30, 2015.

  1. drkelly

    drkelly Dipstick who put two vehicles on jack stands

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    70 bails of pine needles fit in a short bed pickup. I did not drive home from the store like this. I buy them from Zapata's, but his truck and trailer are too big to come down my driveway and turn around so we load my truck in the court. $4 per bail delivered!

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  2. ponykilr

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    I get mine from all my neighbors. I got 3 truckloads for free in the last week LOL

    They even rake it up and put it in a pile for me........ :)
     
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  3. RobMcBee

    RobMcBee Slow n easy when you're not gettin greasy....

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    I like pine needles but there's way to many snakes 'round here lol. I don't do well with snakes... If I know they aren't poisonous I let them live but still don't care for Em too much...
     
  4. shawn

    shawn running dog lackey of the oppressor class Administrator

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    Two dead copperheads here in the last four days between us and the next door neighbor. That makes eight total this year.
     
  5. RobMcBee

    RobMcBee Slow n easy when you're not gettin greasy....

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    That's exactly what I mean lol!! I've heard/been told that they like the pine needles.
     
  6. drkelly

    drkelly Dipstick who put two vehicles on jack stands

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    Got all the rest of my lawn done over the past two days. I have a question for the experts posting in this thread. The weather forecast is calling for a low of 35 deg Sunday and 34 deg on Monday. Any worries about damage to the seed? Should I avoid watering for those days?
     
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  7. RobMcBee

    RobMcBee Slow n easy when you're not gettin greasy....

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    Good question! I have 1" sprouts coming up all over the place, I also spread ore seed over the whole lawn since I had some leftover after doing the back.
     
  8. drkelly

    drkelly Dipstick who put two vehicles on jack stands

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    That old seed that I had left over from last year and put down about 2 weeks ago has come up just fine.

    Luckily, the vast majority of the seed that I put down 2 weeks ago did not get washed away during all the rain. I only had one area get washed out, and I reseeded it Monday.
     
  9. ncsutj

    ncsutj Well-Known Member

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    Josh Guffey told me this about watering and cold weather.
    Keep watering it until Christmas then you can quit, watering before a hard freeze is actually beneficial to young grass it helps to keep it moist without freezing the tiny cell walls of the individual grass blades
    In easy terms, keep watering it and keep fertilizing, spring time you are going to shine
     
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  10. R Q

    R Q Well-Known Member

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    This is exactly right. The grass plants drying out is their worst enemy. They have natural sugars that work as antifreeze, so to speak, but the can't work if they're dry. A good winter fertilizer that has iron and a slow release nitrogen will help get it trough the winter.
     
  11. ponykilr

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    Considering it was just dead thatch and dirt 2 weeks ago, my lawn is looking pretty good!
    Grass is still very immature and skinny but is coming in great.

    This old phone I am using til my new one arrives has a sucky camera....

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  12. Macdaddy4738

    Macdaddy4738 Well-Known Member

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    I suppose I need to read up on this thread. My new house comes with a little over an acre, but only a third of that is yard (rest is wooded). I've got a handful of very large pine trees in the yard. How do you generally deal with loads of pine needles on the roof? I was just thinking every week or so to throw up a ladder and hit it with a leaf blower or something to knock them down. I foresee lots of gutter cleaning.

    I've also got a fair amount of fruit trees. Crab apple, golden delicious apple, Asian pear, peach, some kiwi vines, and grape vines. Any particulars when it comes to taking care of them? It's also got a chicken coop, although I have no idea if I'll use it.
     
  13. ponykilr

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    The best plan, if you can keep it up is to blow the roof and gutters clear weekly. Cleaning nasty rotted crap out of gutters once per year SUCKS. Keeping them clean is WAY easier than replacing rotted trim and rafter ends.

    If you have a lot of pines, you need lime in the soil.
    You can have it tested but it would be very safe to put out 100lbs per 1000 sq ft (unless you have centipede, it loves acidic soil) every spring and fall.

    Fruit trees can suffer from many pests. I like Bayer Tree and Shrub (has Imidicloprid) because it is absorbed into the tree and kills bugs that munch the foliage.
    Read up on it, You have a cut off time for last treatment before fruit comes off to allow the active ingredient to degrade.
    If you have deer galore, wrap some fence around the fruit trees or they will decimate it.

    Fungus on fruit trees is a problem too. Immunox is an inexpensive chem to spray leaves when weather is wet and hot. It is also THE secret to good looking Hosta plants.

    Grape vines are a science unto themselves and have very specific care needs to perform their best. They need to be trimmed late Jan/early Feb and only certain parts should be clipped.
     
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  14. guffey24

    guffey24 Well-Known Member

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    image.jpeg First mowing after over-seeding
     
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  15. R Q

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  16. RobMcBee

    RobMcBee Slow n easy when you're not gettin greasy....

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    I've got a lot of sprouts in my front yard but the back is still questionable. Had to let it dry out.
     
  17. drkelly

    drkelly Dipstick who put two vehicles on jack stands

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    I am in the same boat. Everything i seeded before all the rain looks great and i mowed it for the first time yesterday. Everywhere i seeded a week ago is still just laying there despite all the watering that i have been doing.
     
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  18. RobMcBee

    RobMcBee Slow n easy when you're not gettin greasy....

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    I just resumed the schedule on my irrigation system today. I had been doing the zones individually as needed so the wet spots could dry out. Hopefully it will all even out now...
     
  19. guffey24

    guffey24 Well-Known Member

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    Cool night temps actually make it drier out, bump your times on your irrigation controller

    I usually say start your seeding September 1 for best results especially if you have irrigation

    Don't be afraid to feed it also, slow release fertilizers three applications over the winter, one now, one 6 weeks later, then one around the first of the year, build roots so it will stay like this through the summer
     
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  20. jeepyjman

    jeepyjman Well-Known Member

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    Is it still ok to overseed now?
     
  21. R Q

    R Q Well-Known Member

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    Its a little late but it should still be ok. You just won't get the fast start like you would have even two weeks ago. I still have three to finish up this week.
     
  22. RobMcBee

    RobMcBee Slow n easy when you're not gettin greasy....

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    Just helped my FIL do a grade and seed job today. 5 tandems of topsoil to fill and top dress a lil over 10k sf. Couldn't have asked for a better day to play on a skid steer all day.....
     
  23. ponykilr

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    Looking good. Gonna give it a light sprinkle of winter fert and get them roots DEEP.

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  24. RobMcBee

    RobMcBee Slow n easy when you're not gettin greasy....

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    Damnit! That looks good! I'll post some pics of mine once they're worth posting lol
     
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  25. R Q

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    Once you mow it the seedlings will mature into clumps and it will thicken up a lot.
     

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