E450 RV v2.0

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  1. yager

    yager Better Faster Stronger

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    Specs. 2006 E450 6.0/5R110, 102k miles, ~14' box, 14k GVWR,
    Jacksonville, Tx [October-ish, 2011]
    v2.0, Long story short .... I got it back.
    This was going to be the super RV, then I had a stroke.
    I sold it, buddy bought it, then he died (BigJuggy), then I bought it back. (wife)
    Old thread. E450 RV / Tow Rig
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    I've changed the plans a tiny bit, to address my older self, new hips,
    no glasses, different outlook, etc...
    Basically is going to be the same but I decided to have an automatic and no 4x4.
    I'm doing the interior difference and I'm planning on spending a wee bit
    more money (over time).
    Things like add a bed that raises up to the ceiling...
    A separate bathroom...
    A couple of chairs, not just a bench...
    Yes, it will have the 5.9 Cummins but I have add a Allison 6 speed transmission.
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    Ill have more of those in a while.
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    In case some of you want to read about the whole story.....
    Yager - E450 Ambulance Tow RiV - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum
    VRAY 2006 E450 - Ambulance Cummins Diesel Swap - Pirate4x4.Com : 4x4 and Off-Road Forum
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  2. yager

    yager Better Faster Stronger

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    This is how it sits today.
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    Yes I'm sure y'all, are thinking, wow, that looks bad, I did too.....
    Most of it, are in the back, bumper, grill etc... It is their, but needs assembly.
    And definite a hose, soap and a brush will be needed.
    Time line - 'hell if i know' time line....
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    Here's the driveline.
     
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  3. yager

    yager Better Faster Stronger

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    This is how its going to look....
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    Two primary people (Me/Wife) will sleep in the upper bed.
    The bed will be about 26" to the bottom.
    Any other people will sleep outside or on a cot underneath the the primary bed.
    [Of course everything is subject to change....]

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    Weight: I scaled it with 1/2 tank of fuel. [Sept. 2011]
    Steer: 4200
    Drive: 5880
    Total: 10080
    Tank is directly behind rear axle so 200# for 25gals when full...
    10280# not to bad
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    Overall inside = 86" wide x 162" long x 68" tall (5'8") [Sept. 2011]
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    Heat transfer - Wikipedia
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    I'll summarize heat transfer in my words. [Sept. 2011]
    radiant - blocks suns radiant energy from passing into your camper and being absorbed and converted into actual 'heat'. foils
    conduction - heat transfer by physical contact, regular insulation.
    convection - transfer by fluid/air motion. close your windows/doors.
     
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  4. yager

    yager Better Faster Stronger

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  5. yager

    yager Better Faster Stronger

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    Allison- I've had the Transmission for a while, and I just had to clear out some other junk before it... So.....
    Yes, the Allison are new to me. I rebuilt my 2007 Allison, they are super easy AND hard at the same time.
    Will it blow up... Who knows :)
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    I would call a level 2 out of 5 rebuild. I upgrade the frictions/steels, one notch. I did a pressure regulator upgrade, Shift kit Jr. 1,2,3 upgrade in the valve body. Drill a couple holes in the case help oiling... New roller bearing, new thorrention bearing, bushing, new oil pump, new converter ($$).... but that's about it. I took my time and spent around 3 weeks doing it.
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    The later 2006+ models I really had a hard time figure the valve body from the 'book'. The update section is like 10 pages should be 20, but I found online notes and lectures, that really helped me. Yes i will post them.... :flipoff2:
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    Notes: Being I was doing a rebuild all my measurement were inside the boundary of the spec.
    C1 [.085-.110]
    C2 [.060-.085] I measured .065
    C3 [.040-.060] I measured .051
    C4 [.060-.080] I measured .058
    C5 [.070-.085] .075 Using the factory plate.
    With the back on and bolted on I measured it from the BOTTOM
    [not .090 -.110 from the book, using 'H' setup thing]

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    Here is what I learned, (ruff guess) .
    The all start off as the same case (year/dependent) and they go from there.
    From high level (roughly) 2005- 5 speed and 2006+ 6 speed
    Some get SAE3,SAE2, Chevy, Gears, output, but the gear are the same (except for the ratio ) even the rear will bolt on..
    Depending what year you have they changed some bearings in there, but you can swap there entire set.
    So, I went from a Allison 2007 2500 ---> 2006 1000 :) w/ park and a brake on the back*. (Still working one that)
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    Everyone should download a free PDF the goes into how the rebuild them if you have not already. [Search for this 'Allison 1000 rebuild PDF']
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    [DefeoMfg.com - Really nice guys, super fast shipping...]
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    I'm sure the someone out knows a lot more and will tell me how wrong i am.... but hey, bring it.... ;)
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    If your interested in the 2500
    Here is twobockal (sp) all the gears were 72 deg pitch BEFORE ~2006 (5 speed) [This is a steeper angle per the 'book']
    And most all 2006+ have an 80 deg pitch, 6 speed [This is a lesser angle per the 'book']
    BUT....
    The 2500 has an 80 deg pitch on P1 (Sun/Planetary) [More Quiet] and ....
    a 72 deg pitch on the rest on the gear... [More Stronger]
    AND no parking ring....
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    It all make sense
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  6. yager

    yager Better Faster Stronger

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    Wiring - Ugg
     
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    yager Better Faster Stronger

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    yager Better Faster Stronger

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  10. WARRIORWELDING

    WARRIORWELDING Owner opperator Of WarriorWelding LLC.

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    Looking forward to this. Your builds are always top notch creativity and mechanical ingenuity.
     

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