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Old 03-18-2005, 06:01 AM   #1
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Tow "tag" in NC tech?

Can we get the "tag weight" thread info back in here...(heh, I actually need it since I am getting the Excursion...trying to remember, I think you get enough weight for your tow rig (loaded) PLUS the weight of the tow trailer/jeep?

So...8500ish for the Excursion plus as much as 11000 ('max towing for Xcur) for the towing, I would need 18 to 20k tag?

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Old 03-18-2005, 06:58 AM   #2
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Re: Tow "tag" in NC tech?

Excursion is exempt from weighted tags... It's an SUV.. (This is how I remember it)

Personally, I wouldn't (and didn't on my truck) tag for more than 1K over what you're going to tow anyway..
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Old 03-18-2005, 08:00 AM   #3
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Re: Tow "tag" in NC tech?

rich- that be true for contents of the vehicle just as a DD, BUT your still responsible for any extra weight TOWed, FWIW im paid for 15k
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Old 03-18-2005, 10:36 AM   #4
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Re: Tow "tag" in NC tech?

But the SUV's are classified as station wagons under 20-87 (5)... a pickup is a property hauling vehicle...

That's the loophole as it was explained to me.

The plate weight fees refer only to "property hauling vehicle".

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Old 03-18-2005, 12:16 PM   #5
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Re: Tow "tag" in NC tech?

Yep... that's the way it's always been for me with the Bronco. It was a Station Wagon in VA, a Multipurpose Vehicle in MD, and a car in NC.

Trucks are the only ones subject to weighted tags.
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Old 03-18-2005, 05:39 PM   #6
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Re: Tow "tag" in NC tech?

I'm with you MiesterYager (the extra cabbage up front is *way* better than the consequences of a ticket/denied insurance claim later)... ain't saying what it is quite yet, but mine'll be wearing 15K tags... Monday-ish!
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Old 03-18-2005, 05:58 PM   #7
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Re: Tow "tag" in NC tech?

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I'm with you MiesterYager (the extra cabbage up front is *way* better than the consequences of a ticket/denied insurance claim later)... ain't saying what it is quite yet, but mine'll be wearing 15K tags... Monday-ish!
You bought it huh?
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Old 03-18-2005, 08:18 PM   #8
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Yep... that's the way it's always been for me with the Bronco. It was a Station Wagon in VA, a Multipurpose Vehicle in MD, and a car in NC.

Trucks are the only ones subject to weighted tags.
Actually, I hunted through the NC vehicle statutes, and I can't find anything to support this. The way it's worded, if it has a GCVW over 7K, it has to have weighted tags.... even if it's a Crown Vic.

Edit: stupid NC DOT laws.
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Old 03-18-2005, 08:29 PM   #9
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Re: Tow "tag" in NC tech?

According to NC4X4's lawyer, it all depends on the definition of property carrying vehicle, which in the state of NC is a truck. She looked this up last time this was brought up, might even be posted still.
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Monday... (freakin "bankers hours" *aren't* 9-5 anymore )
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Old 03-19-2005, 07:47 AM   #11
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Re: Tow "tag" in NC tech?

...so give up the goods CDave!!! (It could be in another thread...will peek around) You gonna be PSD too? We may outnumber the Cummins boys yet...heck we may now!

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Old 03-19-2005, 09:08 AM   #12
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well...since it's almost a done deal...

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Old 03-19-2005, 09:21 AM   #13
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Re: Tow "tag" in NC tech?

Damn, I need to get in the Ford diesel transmission repair business!

Sounds like a real nice rig.. both of ya!
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Old 03-19-2005, 09:41 AM   #14
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Damn, I need to get in the Ford diesel transmission repair business!

Sounds like a real nice rig.. both of ya!
...this coming from mr Tranny just puked himself!

I 'wanted' a Duramax/Allison combo, but ya take whatcha find at times!

Rob, CDave, Sam....all PSD...starting to outnumber ya Rich heh!
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Old 03-19-2005, 09:57 AM   #15
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According to NC4X4's lawyer, it all depends on the definition of property carrying vehicle, which in the state of NC is a truck. She looked this up last time this was brought up, might even be posted still.
I'd be interested to see it if you can find it again. I just reread the statute...

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(31) Property‑Hauling Vehicles. –
a. Vehicles used for the transportation of property.
d. Semitrailers. – Vehicles without motive power designed for carrying property or persons and for being drawn by a motor vehicle, and so constructed that part of their weight or their load rests upon or is carried by the pulling vehicle.
e. Trailers. – Vehicles without motive power designed for carrying property or persons wholly on their own structure and to be drawn by a motor vehicle, including "pole trailers" or a pair of wheels used primarily to balance a load rather than for purposes of transportation.
So if it transports property, it is a property-hauling vehicle. This coincides with the rules on pig cookers, too -- a pig cooker trailer does not have to have tags, so long as it does not carry property. That includes the pig, too.

20-88 goes into the rules on property-hauling vehicles in greater detail, but it really only outlines the fees, definitions and use of "farm" vehicles, etc.
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